41. Who Are Old Catholics? old catholics are an historic part of the One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic In general, old catholics (as well as Independent Catholics) recognize the http://holyspirit.livingrosaries.org/Whoare1.htm

Holy Spirit Catholic Church of Antioch Catholic and Apostolic Church of Antioch-Malabar Rite 1208 East Burlington, Fairfield, Iowa Who Are Old Catholics? Old Catholics are an historic part of the One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church and have their origins in the Ancient Catholic Church of the Netherlands. As an entire group, Old (and Independent) Catholic jurisdictions form a diverse spectrum of usage and theological opinion ranging from those who support women's ordination to those who maintain pre Vatican I (and two) teachings and usages, to those who express Byzantine and Orthodox rites. General Observations There are a few observations which can be made that apply to most all Old Catholics. In general, Old Catholics (as well as Independent Catholics) recognize the role played by the Pope as a key role in the world, but not as the sole ruler of the Catholic world. Old Catholics may revere the Pope but are not subject to his rule. They tend to govern themselves by Synods of Bishops rather than concentration of power in a single individual. Old Catholics cherish, maintain and promote the value of the Apostolic Succession, having valid succession recognized by Rome itself.

42. The Columbia Encyclopedia, Sixth Edition: Old Catholics@ HighBeam Research The Columbia Encyclopedia, Sixth Edition old catholics@ HighBeam Research. http://www.highbeam.com/ref/doc0.asp?docid=1E1:OldCatho

43. The Columbia Encyclopedia, Sixth Edition: Old Catholics@ HighBeam Research The Columbia Encyclopedia, Sixth Edition old catholics@ HighBeam Research. http://www.highbeam.com/ref/doc0.asp?ctrlInfo=Round15:ProdCtrl:DOCREF:Print&DOCI

44. Thuc Consecrations. Old Catholics. Communicatio In Divinis It s just one example from an evergrowing list of lies and myths about the lifeof Ngo dinh Thuc. All the persecutors have at least one thing in common http://www.wandea.org.pl/thuc-consecrations.htm

REKLAMA mPlan kredyt w mBanku Kredyty mieszkaniowe w GE Money Banku Kredyt gotówkowy w Citibanku Konto dla firmy w Multibanku ... Kredyt na samochód GOR¡CE TEMATY: aborcja pornografia homoseksualizm Contact us ... Grupa dyskusyjna Monarchizm TOOLS: Tapety na pulpit Skins to Winamp Wygaszacze ekranu DO POBRANIA: zip pdf radio ksiêgarnia Thuc Consecrations. Old Catholics communicatio in divinis cum catholicis DO POBRANIA: zip pdf radio ksiêgarnia Bishop - Robert McKenna - Ngo - Anthony Cekada - Ngo dinh Thuc Satanists - Episcopi Vagantes - sub conditione - Clarence Kelly Rick Agon False accusations against Ngo's consecrations (part 1) Once upon the time I was a member of a certain e-mail discussion group linked to followers of late abp. Marcel Lefebvre. One of members of the group asked about bishop Robert McKenna, so I responded, that to my best knowledge he is a valid catholic bishop with the apostolic succession tracing back to Our Lord, Jesus Christ, via one of a few bishops who remained faithful to the Truth after 2. Vatican Council - archbishop Ngo dinh Thuc from South Vietnam.

45. Roman Catholics - Traditional Catholic Bishops - Old Catholics In June 1984 when the personal immorality of Rev. Francis Schuckardt came to beknown, three priests confronted Schuckardt on this matter. http://www.wandea.org.pl/roman-catholics.htm

REKLAMA mPlan kredyt w mBanku Kredyty mieszkaniowe w GE Money Banku Kredyt gotówkowy w Citibanku Konto dla firmy w Multibanku ... Kredyt na samochód GOR¡CE TEMATY: aborcja pornografia homoseksualizm Kontakt z nami ... Grupa dyskusyjna Monarchizm GAD¯ETY: Tapety na pulpit Skiny do Winampa Wygaszacze do ekranu DO POBRANIA: zip pdf radio ksiêgarnia Roman Catholics Roman Catholics Fr. Tarcisius M. Pivarunas, CMRI Just for the Record Five years have passed since the traditional Catholic Community centered in Spokane, Washington at Mt. St. Michael (also known as the Religious Congregation of Mary Immaculate Queen) underwent the terrible scandal caused by the personal immorality of Francis Schuckardt. The time that has elapsed since the fall of Schuckardt has afforded the opportunity for the Community to rectify a number of matters and to reorganize and reestablish itself. However, there are some among the various traditional Catholic groups who will forever attempt to discredit the

46. History News Network In 187071, the old catholics set a precedent. Forming in Germany and TheNetherlands, they opposed the doctrine of papal infallibility and desired a more http://hnn.us/blogs/comments/11444.html

CLIOPATRIA: A Group Blog Jeff Vanke "Old Catholics" A Schism from 1870-71 that Lives On The College of Cardinals has elected a pope so stridently conservative and politically activist that his predecessor sometimes had to overrule him, as recently as last year on the matter of Turkey's relationship with Europe. Benedict XVI is poised to make John Paul II look like a compromiser. In some ways, he has been assistant pope for two decades, and liberal hopes that this particular 78-year-old will change after a few months in office seem wildly misplaced. So will the Catholic Church in the United States see another exodus to the Episcopalian Church, or did those so inclined already leave long ago? If Episcopalians offered to host masses of Catholic liturgy, under (ex?)Catholic clergy in effect to house two congregations under one roof they might effect some interesting developments.... Liturgy and tradition, as opposed to theology, may be the primary factors retaining many American Catholics in the Church. If those factors can be accommodated elsewhere, Rome's budget will have cause for worry, and Ratzinger may be surprised at how small "small" can be. Conversely, is there much chance that discontented anti-homosexual-ordination Episcopalians will defect to Rome?

47. History News Network Re old catholics A Schism from 187071 that Lives On by Jeff Vanke (April20, 2005 at 831 PM). Re old catholics A Schism from 1870-71 that Lives http://hnn.us/blogs/entries/11444.html

HNN History News Network Because the Past is the Present, and the Future too. Donations Archives ... FAQs Search HNN: Breaking News Departments HNN Articles Hot Topics Books Features ... CLIOPATRIA: A Group Blog Jeff Vanke "Old Catholics" A Schism from 1870-71 that Lives On The College of Cardinals has elected a pope so stridently conservative and politically activist that his predecessor sometimes had to overrule him, as recently as last year on the matter of Turkey's relationship with Europe. Benedict XVI is poised to make John Paul II look like a compromiser. In some ways, he has been assistant pope for two decades, and liberal hopes that this particular 78-year-old will change after a few months in office seem wildly misplaced. So will the Catholic Church in the United States see another exodus to the Episcopalian Church, or did those so inclined already leave long ago? If Episcopalians offered to host masses of Catholic liturgy, under (ex?)Catholic clergy in effect to house two congregations under one roof they might effect some interesting developments.... Liturgy and tradition, as opposed to theology, may be the primary factors retaining many American Catholics in the Church. If those factors can be accommodated elsewhere, Rome's budget will have cause for worry, and Ratzinger may be surprised at how small "small" can be.

48. Old Catholics - New Doctrines was ordained in the Roman Catholic Church in 1979 and became Old Catholic in1988. old catholics reject papal infallibility and certain other positions http://acca.asn.au/MESS011H/101P1004.html

Old Catholics - New Doctrines The Roman Catholic Cardinal Archbishop of Utrecht says that the selection of an ex-Roman Catholic priest, Fr. Joris Vercammen, to lead the Old Catholic Union of Utrecht adds an "extra problem" to relations between the two churches, but that the larger difficulty is women's ordination in some Old Catholic bodies. Fr. Vercammen was ordained in the Roman Catholic Church in 1979 and became Old Catholic in 1988. Old Catholics reject papal infallibility and certain other positions upheld by Rome, though Old Catholic Orders have been (until recently) recognised by Rome. The 400,000 member Union of Utrecht is officially in communion with the Canterbury led Anglican Communion, with the exception of the Union's largest body, the Polish National Catholic Church (PNCC) in North America. The PNCC broke communion with the Anglican churches of Canada and America, as well as the Church of England in 1992, over women's ordination, and now is estranged from several European Old Catholic bodies which have moved to ordain women. The PNCC has broken communion with Old Catholic churches in Germany, Austria, Holland and Switzerland over the innovation. The significant percentage of ex-Roman Catholics in leadership of European Old Catholic churches seem, in fact, to have catalysed the movement of these bodies to accept female ordination.

49. Grantham Design :: About : News The German old catholics are a church that was formed by dissident Catholics inthe late 1800s because of their objections to the doctrines of papal http://www.grantham.de/about/news.php3?news=20050202

50. Independent Old Catholics Recognise Women Are Equal In Christ - Interdenominatio The Interdenominational Church of the Holy Lands stands firm in Ordaining FemaleBishops and Welcomes Women into the Most Senior Clerical Offices. http://www.prleap.com/pr/5388/

Home About Us FAQ Resources ... News by MSA See More Related Religion News News Released: March 16, 2005 Independent Old Catholics Recognise Women are Equal in Christ 1 Cotinthians 11:13 The Most Reverend Archbishop Gary Beaver of The Interdenominational Church of the Holy Lands made an official statement on behalf of the Independent Old Catholic denomination in full support of women in all offices of the church “ The gift of Calling and serving the church community is not and should not be a question of gender” Archbishop goes on to state “ Many have stated that there are political reasons supporting arguments against female Bishops and women in the church, which only goes to prove that we should worship God in our churches and not politics.” Many see that allowing women to become Priests and Bishops is a novelty within the Church in the last 50 years. Not only is it an historical novelty it is still confined to a fairly small proportion of Christian churches. Christ made women’s ordination possible when he revoked the Old Testament priesthood of Aaron and brought both men and women into a new convenant; into a new priesthood through baptism. "All of you are children of God through faith in Christ Jesus. All of you who have been baptized in Christ, have clothed yourselves in Christ. Thus there is no longer Jew nor Greek, free nor slave, male nor female. For you are all one in Christ Jesus." Galatians 3,27-28. The ordination to the priesthood is a fuller participation in baptism’s sacrificial and prophetic gifts. Christ replaced a priesthood based on the sacred by a priesthood based on grace; a universal priesthood shared by all the baptized. This priesthood is given through the sacrament of baptism, and baptism is the same whether for a man or a woman.

51. Old Catholics Seek Identity At The Margins These are stories from past, or back, issues of the National Catholic Reporter,the NCR. http://www.natcath.com/NCR_Online/archives2/1999b/042399/042399f.htm

Old Catholics seek identity at the margins By MICHAEL J. FARRELL NCR Staff Orange, Calif. In the city of Orange in Southern California in a nondescript mall where commerce is king, a church is scarcely typical. The Church of St. Matthew is less typical still. It is an Old Catholic church. The Union of Utrecht became the Vatican for Old Catholics, except that the union was never able to keep its daughter churches on such a short leash as its prototype by the Tiber. Yet Utrecht is vitally important to Old Catholics in one regard: It is seen as source and guarantor of apostolic succession, that unbroken line that, Catholics insist, must go back to Jesus and the apostles. The name Old Catholic is seen by members as more confusing than helpful except for that all-important implication of proper pedigree. Obsessed with the need for apostolic succession, priests got themselves consecrated bishops on a grand scale. But in most such cases they had no flock, no priests. The best-organized exception, says Hickman, was the Polish National Catholic church headquartered in Scranton, Pa. This continues to be ethnically based and therefore exclusive. A personal search Even in the unusual milieu of the Old Catholic church, Hickman is atypical. His personal search helps explain why the Old Catholic church survives as friendly port in a storm for a variety of tempest-tossed souls.

52. More About Old Catholics More about old catholics. Sorry, this page isn t ready yet. Please try again soon.Back to the Main Page. http://www.ucl.ac.uk/~ucgbmxd/oldcath.htm

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53. Anglicans And Old Catholics This page is transfered to http//www.okknschiedam.nl/anglok.htm. http://home.planet.nl/~karelmg/anglok.htm

This page is transfered to http://www.okkn-schiedam.nl/anglok.htm

54. West Drayton: Roman Catholicism And Old Catholics | British History Online The digital library of text and information about people, places and businessesfrom the medieval and early modern period, built by the Institute of http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.asp?compid=22324

55. Old Catholic Church Http://www The old catholics have sought to restore the church to its original beliefs and Most old catholics are in communion with the Old Catholic Church of the http://www.geocities.com/cathcongphil/links.htm

LINKS PAGE Rationalist and Freethought groups A good list of Humanist organizations: Humanism Online: A quick index to web resources on humanism http://www.geocities.com/Athens/7693/organizations.html Rational Universal Church of the Philippines: http://www.geocities.com/cathcongphil/ ... Universists of Albay Province homepage is at http://www.geocities.com/cathcongphil/universists.html Apathetic Agnostic Church of Bicol A church for all Agnostics, Rationalists, Unitarians, Freethinkers, Pantheists, Humanists, Universalists, Nontheists, Atheists and other free spirits in the Bicol Region of the Philippines. Bicol Agnostics Discussion Group A bulletin board and discussion group for all Agnostics, Rationalists, Unitarians, Freethinkers, Pantheists, Humanists, Universalists, Nontheists, Atheists and other free spirits in the Bicol Region of the Philippines. Universal Church Triumphant of the Apathetic Agnostic. The International Headquarters of the Apathetic Agnostic movement. "We don't know [if there is a god] and we don't care" is the slogan of this group. Unitarian Universalist Association The Unitarian-Universalist Church believes in ethical, responsible behavior based on rational thought.

56. Gigablast Search Results Catholic Encyclopedia old catholics Practically a list of grievances of (Roman) Historical and doctrinal profile of old catholics, and a bibliography. http://dir.gigablast.com/Society/Religion_and_Spirituality/Christianity/Denomina

Family filter: On Off Entire Directory Entire Category Pages in Base Category Sites in Base Category Top Society Christianity Denominations ... Union of Utrecht This category in other languages: Dutch German Catholic Encyclopedia: Old Catholics Practically a list of grievances of (Roman) Catholics in Germany. Dismisses Mathew's London following as "not a matter of any importance." Category: Society: Religion and Spirituality: Christianity: Denominations: Catholicism: Reference: Catholic Encyclopedia: O www.newadvent.org/cathen/11235b.htm [archived copy] [stripped] [older copies] - indexed: Apr 26 2005 - modified: Dec 05 2004 Columbia Encyclopedia: Old Catholics Short historical essay. www.bartleby.com/65/ol/OldCatho.html [archived copy] [stripped] [older copies] - indexed: Apr 26 2005 Old Roman Catholics Part of the Religious Movements Homepage. Written by a college student in a sociology of religion course. Historical and doctrinal profile of Old Catholics, and a bibliography. religiousmovements.lib.virginia.edu/nrms/Oldcath.html [archived copy] [stripped] [older copies] - indexed: Apr 26 2005 American Catholic Union Association of Old Catholic priests.

57. Independent Catholic Churches International Many formed independent communities that came to be known as Old Catholic.They are called old catholics because they sought to adhere to the beliefs and http://www.independentcatholics.org/history.html

home about history ministries ... contact us OUR HISTORY Independent Catholics: A Historical Sketch Who We Are The Old Catholic Church of the Netherlands The Church in the Netherlands and the Reformation Armed with the protection of the papal concessions, the Church in the Netherlands continued to minister even through the Reformation. During this period of strife, the Church in the Netherlands, as in many other countries, was forced to "go underground" in order to survive. But survive and remain extant, it did. Eventually, the Archbishop of Utrecht and other Church leaders reached an informal agreement with the civil government, whereby it could again function openly without interference from the Reformers. The Move from Isolation In the United States Another Old Catholic priest, Fr. Joseph Renee Vilatte, began his minsitry in Wisconsin, which led to the establishment of Old Catholic familial lines making us brothers and sisters to the Oriental Orthodox Churches in Middle East. Fr. Vilatte ultimately became Bishop Vilatte, consecrated bishop under the authority of Mar Ignatius Peter III, Jacobite Patriarch of Antioch. He was consecrated a bishop by Mar Julius, Metropolitan of the Independent Catholic Church of Ceylon, Goa and India, who was assisted by Mar Paul Athanasius, Bishop of Kottayam and Mar George Gregorius, Bishop of Niranam (who was later cannonized as a saint in the Indian Orthodox Church). He then returned to the United States, where his Episcopal lines would stand alongside those of Bishop Mathew, in securing valid lines of Apostolic Succession, both of which many of the Independent Catholic Churches in the United States share.

58. Press Release - Independent Old Catholics Recognise Women Are Equal In Christ www.247PressRelease.com - The Interdenominational Church of the Holy Lands standsfirm in Ordaining Female Bishops and Welcomes Women into the Most Senior http://www.24-7pressrelease.com/view_press_release.php?rID=4198

59. Ship Of Fools: MW: Old Catholics MW old catholics Oh, yes, old catholics and their illegitimate offspringthe vagantes. Right, the OCs began in the 1700s as a Jansenist schism in http://forum.ship-of-fools.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=11;t=00046

60. Touchstone Archives: Old Catholics, New Doctrines The actions of the German and Swiss old catholics in repudiating the Upon theirensuing excommunication they joined the old catholics and for a time http://touchstonemag.com/archives/article.php?id=12-01-021-f

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