61. IOL : Other Sports Japan make judo history These Olympics have shown once again that judo inJapan is not a sport but a tradition, Tmenov said after lifting the http://www.iol.co.za/index.php?sf=624&set_id=6&click_id=624&art_id=qw10937689238

62. A Gold Medal With A History Attached To It In The Sydney Olympic Judo A Gold Medal with a history Attached to it in the Sydney olympic judo The Worst Misjudgement in the olympic history. (Look at this Outrageous Judgement. http://www.h5.dion.ne.jp/~morry/judo/index_e.html

A Gold Medal with a History Attached to it in the Sydney Olympic Judo In the 2000 Sydney Olympic, Shinohara Shinichi (Japan) and David Douillet (France) went into the final match for Men's Judo in over 100Kg class. After one and a half minutes from start of the final, Douillet tried to make Uchi-mata against Shinohara. After Shinohara avoided the trick, he made Uchi-mata-sukashi . Douillet is fallen down on his back. However, Douillet got Yoko Many webs in Japanese language have been published to protest the judgment. Many people out of Japan have not known what happend there yet with less information than in Japan. To publish this web, you can have some information to know and consider. I am protesting at the follow misjudgments. The referee had overlooked some violations by Douillet until he got the Yuko The referee had overlooked Uchi-mata-sukashi by Shinohara. Shinohara should get a Ippon but he gave Yuko t odouillet. Additionally, Douillet gripped and pulled his enemy's Obi at the time. Douillet broke a rule but the referee overlooked it. My Opinions Consideration for the misjudgment in the Sydney Olympic Judo.

63. RecFacts 513: Canada's Summer Olympic History - Alberta Community Development RecFacts 513 Canada s Summer olympic history judo 0 1 1 2. Weightlifting 02 0 2. Golf 1 0 0 1. Soccer 1 0 0 1. Rhythmic Gymnastics 1 0 0 1 http://www.cd.gov.ab.ca/building_communities/sport_recreation/resources_links/re

Contact Us Search Location: Alberta Government Home Community Development Home Building Strong Communities Sport and Recreation ... General Index RecFacts 513 Keyword Search: Advanced Search... RecFacts 513: Canada's Summer Olympic History All About Us Get Involved Contact Us Site Map Print RecFacts 513: Canada's Summer Olympic History The Canadian Medal Count Team G S B Total Size 1896 Athens Did Not Compete 1900 Paris 1 1 2 1* 1904 St. Louis 4 1 1 6 43 1907 London 3 3 9 15 91 1912 Stockholm 3 2 3 8 36 1916 Berlin Games Not Held 1920 Antwerp 2 3 3 8 47 1924 Paris 3 1 4 73 1928 Amsterdam 4 4 7 15 71 1932 Los Angeles 2 5 8 15 102 1936 Berlin 1 3 5 9 109 1940 Tokyo, Helsinki Games Not Held 1944 London Games Not Held 1948 London 1 2 3 106 1952 Helsinki 1 2 3 113 1956 Melbourne 2 1 3 6 99 1960 Rome 1 1 97 1964 Tokyo 1 2 1 4 118 1968 Mexico City 1 3 1 5 143 1972 Munich 2 3 5 220 1976 Montreal 5 6 11 414 1980 Moscow Did Not Compete 211** 1984 Los Angeles 10 18 16 44 436 1988 Seoul 3 2 5 10 354 1992 Barcelona 6 5 7 18 314 1996 Atlanta Totals 38 61 75 174 * No official team sent, but George Orton, a Canadian studying in the United States, won two medals competing on his own.

64. WoYaa!: SPORTS/JUDO judo olympic Niçois, Nice, Alpes Maritimes, judo et jujitsu judo olympic Niçois,Nice, judo Ontario A history of judo judo Ontario A history of judo http://www.woyaa.com/links/SPORTS/JUDO/more10.html

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65. Asia's First Olympics The victory ceremony for the 18th Tokyo olympics judo Heavyweight Class Isao Okano for the event were said to be the highest in olympic history. http://web-japan.org/factsheet/olympics/tokyo.html

Introduction History The Tokyo Games and Beyond The Winter Olympics The Nagano Games The Tokyo Games and Beyond The victory ceremony for the 18th Tokyo Olympics Judo Heavyweight Class: Isao Okano clinches the gold medal. In 1952, the postwar military occupation of Japan came to an end, and Japan made a bid to the IOC for Tokyo to host the Seventeenth Olympiad, to be held in 1960. The bid was won by Rome, but Japan was not discouraged. In October 1955, the Tokyo Metropolitan Legislature approved a decision to bid on hosting the Eighteenth Olympiad, to be held in 1964. A Japanese delegation visited Munich, Germany, for the fifty-fifth meeting of the IOC. Japan had set its hopes on winning the right to host the games and waged an aggressive campaign to wrest votes from rivals Detroit and Vienna. Finally on March 26, 1960, the IOC delegates put the matter to a vote. For Japan, the hosting of the Eighteenth Olympiad in October 1964 was a historical landmark event that signified the end of the postwar reconstruction period and underscored Japan's high economic growth. During the 5 years leading up to 1964, preparations for the Games literally transformed the face of Tokyo. Roads in the city and suburbs were widened. A huge Olympic Village sprang up in Yoyogi, and NHK built a new broadcast center nearby to cover the event. Total expenditures in preparation for the event were said to be the highest in Olympic history.

66. NewYorkGames.org: New York Olympic History Boxing, gymnastics, judo, weightlifting, wrestling and fencing were held at the New York s olympic history may have been very different had Lindsay kept http://www.newyorkgames.org/news/archives/000164.html

NewYorkGames.org Putting New York's Olympic Bid First Home September 04, 2003 New York Olympic History NewYorkGames.org Report Like its World's Fairs , New York's Olympic bid had its focus outside of Manhattan. With too little space to properly host the world, Flushing Meadows in Queens was the centerpiece of the serious bid for the 1984 Olympics. It was the focal point for other potential bids as well. NYC2012's Manhattan-centric approach is well outside the historic pattern. Indeed, this is only the first effort to host a world event in Manhattan since the disastrous 1892 World's Fair bid . New York was considered the heavy favorite to commemorate the 400th anniversary of Columbus' arrival in the Americas, but the financial backers insisted on using Central Park. The controversy fatally wounded New York's chances, and Congress gave the fair to Chicago. The only event of this nature held in Manhattan was the 1853 Crystal Palace Exposition, though this smaller event (if fit on today's Bryant Park) is not considered a proper World's Fair.

67. Olympic 1998 1st female ice hockey game in olympic history Finland beats Sweden 60 1964 Anton Geesink is 1st non-Japanese olympic judo gold medal winner http://www.brainyhistory.com/topics/o/olympic.html

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68. Judo Ontario: A History Of Judo A history of judo From the Meiji to the Present World and olympic championshave come from virtually all the major European countries, http://www.judo.on.ca/articles/history.html

Home Upcoming Events Articles Shiai Results Player Profile Sensei's Corner IJF Pic of the Month Club Directory Guestbook Contact Us Links Membership Form A History of Judo: From the Meiji to the Present The Meiji Period (1868-1912) of Japanese history was an era of immense change. Japan had closed its doors to the West some two centuries earlier under the power of the ruling Shogunate, causing Japan to remain virtually unchanged during this period both politically and industrially. However, after numerous unsuccessful attempts to establish trade with the Japanese throughout the mid-nineteenth century by a number of Western nations, the United States finally managed to establish a foothold at the Dutch-maintained trading post of Deshima in Nagasaki. This occurred as a result of two notable expeditions. The first was led by Commodore James Biddle in 1846, and the second by Commodore James Glynn in 1849. Although it was the arrival of Commodore Matthew Perry in 1853, that permanently set the wheels of change in motion. Perry brought word from then U.S. President, Millard Fillmore, demanding that Japan establish trading and diplomatic relations between the two nations. Fillmore also threatened the use of force if these terms were not met. As a result, a treaty of amity was signed by the following year between the U.S. and Japan. This effectively ended the isolation from the West that had lasted since 1639. Similar treaties followed with Britain, France, Russia, and the Netherlands, thus beginning Japan's rapid modernization.

69. NewsHour Extra Teacher Resources And while there are now 37 sports ranging from judo to table tennis, The USteam hopes he can make olympic history by beating Mark Spitz s 32year-old http://www.pbs.org/newshour/extra/features/july-dec04/olympics_8-09.html

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70. EdGate Summer Games The judo competition in the Athens 2004 olympic Games will take place at the The United States olympic Committee site includes the rules and history of http://www2.edgate.com/summergames/spotlight_sport/judo.php

Brought to you by EdGate and Griffin Publishing Home About Athens Healthy Bodies ... Spotlight Sport Judo Click a link to read more about Scoring Competition News, History, Fast Facts More Sports Scoring Competition News, History, and Fast Facts Research the American national teams at US Judo and USOC Judo The International Judo Federation includes a great introduction to the sport. The Official Olympic Judo site includes a glossary for learning terms. The judo competition in the Athens 2004 Olympic Games will take place at the Ano Liossia Olympic Hall Learn more about this sport. More sports Archery Badminton Baseball Basketball Boxing Cycling Diving Equestrian Fencing Field Hockey Gymnastics

71. The Decathlon In Olympic History - DECA, The Decathlon Association history of the Decathlon as an olympic event, from Ancient Greece to the New He was also a national class judo competitor and AllAmerican swimmer. http://www.decathlonusa.org/history.html

Sponsored by The Decathlon in Olympic History Table of Contents: The Jim Thorpe Story The Ancient Pentathlon The Middle Ages Early Olympic History ... The Age of Boycotts The Jim Thorpe Story When King Gustav V of Sweden presented awards at the 1912 Olympic Games of Stockholm, he proclaimed to the decathlon winner, an American Indian named Jim Thorpe, as the world's top athlete. "You sir, are the world's greatest athlete." Incidentally, Jim is purported to have replied, "Thanks, King" to the Swedish monarch, a story, true or not, which itself has become part of the Thorpe saga. Ever since, the Olympic decathlon champion or world record holder has been dubbed "the World's Greatest Athlete." And rightly so, since the decathlon is the only objective test of all around athletic ability. Decathletes must contest ten separate events and have those performances tallied on a standard scoring table. The decathlon measures basic sporting ability like jumping, sprinting and throwing. Within the backdrop and rules of track and field, decathlon champions must exhibit, the 4 S's: speed, spring, strength and stamina. Since 1912 great decathlon champions like Bob Mathias, Rafer Johnson, Bruce Jenner and Daley Thompson and others have become household names. But they all owe much to the legend of Thorpe.

72. Japanese American Summer Olympians When judo was finally accepted as an olympic event in 1964, Encyclopedia ofJapanese American history An A to Z Reference from 1868 to the Present http://www.janmstore.com/summerolympics.html

In a year filled with international conflict and unrest, the 2004 Summer Olympics seem more important than ever as a reminder of the ancient ideals of competition, culture, education, and peace that began the Olympic games as early as 776 BC. The return of the games to Athens, Greece-the original site of the Olympics-and the customary lighting of the torch are reminders of the true spirit of the event where athletes from many countries honor the Olympic Truce and compete, not for personal gain, but to represent the best that their country has to offer. The Olympics have been of long-standing importance to both the Japanese and Japanese Americans. Early immigrants brought traditional Japanese sports with them. For example, as more Japanese made their way to the U.S., judo classes began appearing in the Northwest. When judo was finally accepted as an Olympic event in 1964, Japanese Americans such as Paul Murayama, Kevin Asano, Patrick Mitsugi Burris, Nicki Yonezuki, Craig Agena and, more recently, Sandra Bacher and Liliko Ogasawara, became notable names in the sports world. At the 1948 Olympic Games, Harold Sakata became the first Japanese American to win an Olympic medal by capturing a silver medal in weightlifting. Before 1952, no Japanese American had ever won an Olympic gold medal. However, at the 1952 Summer Games in Helsinki, three Japanese Americans won gold medals. Tommy Kono, a Japanese American weightlifter who trained while incarcerated in the Tule Lake Relocation Center, made his mark in Olympic history, winning a gold medal and setting a world record in the Olympic games of 1952 and 1956. Yoshinobu Oyakawa won a gold medal in swimming, establishing a Olympic record in winning the 100-meter backstroke. Ford Konno won two gold medals in swimming, including the 1,500-meter race, in which he shattered the Olympic record. Ironically, the top three finishers in the race were all of Japanese descent - Shiro Hashizume of Japan and and Tetsuo Okamoto of Brazil finished second and third.

73. Olympics Under the urging of Kano Jigoro, a judo athlete, the Japanese olympic Committee (JOC) It was the first medal taken by Japan in Winter olympic history. http://www.sg.emb-japan.go.jp/JapanAccess/olympics.htm

Japan Access JAPAN AND THE OLYMPICS Asia's first Olympic host Introduction History Asia's First Olympics The Winter Olympics The Nagano Games Japan has been an enthusiastic participant in the Olympic Games since the Fifth Olympiad, held in Stockholm, in 1912. Although Tokyo was eagerly promoted as the site for the 1940 Games, they were canceled due to World War II. The hosting of the 1964 Summer Olympics (Tokyo) and the 1972 Winter Olympics (Sapporo) were, respectively, the first summer and winter games ever held in Asia. The 1998 Nagano Winter Olympics marked the third time that Japan has hosted the Games. History Introduction Asia's First Olympics The Winter Olympics The Nagano Games Under the urging of Kano Jigoro, a judo athlete, the Japanese Olympic Committee (JOC) was established in 1911. Two athletes were sent to participate at the Fifth Olympiad in Stockholm the following year. The first 2 Japanese to participate as members of a Japanese team were Mishima Yahiko, a sprinter, and Kanaguri Shiro, a long-distance runner. Japan's debut in the Olympics in 1912 Though the next games were to be held in 1916, they were canceled due to World War I. By the 1920 Games at Antwerp, Japan had fielded a team of 15, and earned its first awards: a pair of silver medals in singles and doubles tennis.

74. Stadium-resources This site bring you to discover ancient olympic history and Greece. Includes sections on juniors and the olympics. judo Information Site You ve entered http://nersp.nerdc.ufl.edu/~eli/teachers/activities/tesl2/culture/sports/stadium

Warm-Up Coach Handbook Stadium Exercise Room ... Home Stadium Resources for Sports These resourses are arranged by the type of sports, and you may find out more about a specific sport at News and Media Sports in General, or try the search engine at More... News and Media Sports in General Olympic Games ... More........ News and Media ABC Sports Current photos, news, score boards, broacast schedules, also available in Audio ABC Sports Radio CBS SportsLine provides index search for current news, scores, schedules, CNN Sports Illustrated On-line sports news with various categories for readers to search, also provide a site for Kids. ESPN complete coverage of sports news and events, also providing search engine for target news. Los Angels Times has lengthy articles in sports and easy- to- retrieve tables and site index search. Need more similar stories? Try the archive search at the bottom of page. MSNBC Sports provided viewers's interaction is valued at this site to paticipate in ranking the article, join discussion, and fill in the cencor

75. OpinionEditorials.com – Iran, Israel & Olympics - Fitleberg 15 because of Iran’s political boycott of Israel, the International judo Federationaccepted the Ze’evi’s medal is Israel’s fifth in olympic history. http://www.opinioneditorials.com/guestcontributors/gfitleberg_20040823.html

BanzhafWatch.com Keeping an eye on the man who wants to sue America! ff.org Policy, politics, and more from a cutting-edge think tank. Visit our sponsors! August 23, 2004 Gary Fitleberg You can take the Olympics out of politics but can you take politics of the Olympics? One day before the Olympics begin in Athens, Greece, an Iranian world judo champion, Arash Miresmaeili, forfeited his match against an Israeli and pulled out of the 2004 Athens Olympics Games, claiming the Iranian government forced him to abandon his Olympic hopes for political reasons, the Israeli daily Yedioth Ahronoth reported. Miresmaeili first said he took his stance to protest Israeli treatment of Arab "Palestinians" drawing praise from Iranian President Mohammed Khatami After being selected to fight Israeli champion Udi Vaks, the Iranian judo champion, Arash Miresmaili, sadly held his head in his hands and muttered in broken English, "it's not up to me." In Tehran, Miresmaili is called the "gold hope" and appeared on the covers of all the important papers as the best chance for an Iranian gold medal. Members of his delegation told the newspaper, "he will not compete against Israelis. We have our orders." Miresmaeili, who carried Iran's flag during Friday's opening ceremony, finished fifth in Sydney and having won world titles in 2001 and 2003 was carrying his country's hopes of Olympic gold in Athens.

76. Brief History Of The Olympic Games Brief history of the olympic Games. Ancient olympic Games Chronology of athletic Games included the biathlon, 10kilometer walk, baseball, and judo. http://www.nostos.com/olympics/

Sydney Olympics - official site Your Comments Brief History of the Olympic Games Ancient Olympic Games Chronology of athletic events added to the Olympic Games Myths and the Olympic Games Pelops myth ... Athens for Olympic Games of 2004 Ancient Olympic Games The Olympic Games begun at Olympia in Greece in 776 BC. The Greek calendar was based on the Olympiad, the four-year period between games. The games were staged in the wooded valley of Olympia in Elis. Here the Greeks erected statues and built temples in a grove dedicated to Zeus, supreme among the gods. The greatest shrine was an ivory and gold statue of Zeus. Created by the sculptor Phidias, it was considered one of the Seven Wonders of the World. Scholars have speculated that the games in 776 BC were not the first games, but rather the first games held after they were organized into festivals held every four years as a result of a peace agreement between the city-states of Elis and Pisa. The Eleans traced the founding of the Olympic games to their King Iphitos, who was told by the Delphi Oracle to plant the olive tree from which the victors' wreaths were made. According to Hippias of Elis, who compiled a list of Olympic victors c.400 BC, at first the only Olympic event was a 200-yard dash, called a stadium. This was the only event until 724 BC, when a two-stadia race was added. Two years later the 24-stadia event began, and in 708 the pentathlon was added and wrestling became part of the games. This pentathlon, a five-event match consisted of running, wrestling, leaping, throwing the discus, and hurling the javelin. In time boxing, a chariot race, and other events were included.

77. Yale Bulletin And Calendar Yale senior Sada Jacobson made history Aug. 17 at the 2004 olympics in Athens, her third olympic appearance this summer as a member of the US judo team. http://www.yale.edu/opa/v33.n1/story1.html

August 27, 2004 Volume 33, Number 1 Sada Jacobson, during her time at Yale. Yale fencer wins bronze and makes history at Olympics Yale senior Sada Jacobson made history Aug. 17 at the 2004 Olympics in Athens, Greece, by becoming the first women's saber competitor to win a medal in the international games and the first U.S. medalist in fencing in 20 years. www.yalealumnimagazine.com Other Bulldogs in the Olympics George Gleason '01, who also swam in the Sydney Olympics in 2001, finished in sixth place in heat four of the men's freestyle representing the U.S. Virgin Islands. Gleason holds the Yale records in the 200 freestyle and 200 backstroke and was twice named second-team All-Ivy, among other honors. Bulldog bids for gold 'Postcards from Athens' http://yalebulldogs.collegesports.com . For further details on Olympic results, visit www.athens2004.com . More information on Yale's history in the Olympic games, including a list of all Yale participants, is available at www.iviesinathens.com By Susan Gonzalez T H I S W E E K ' S S T O R I E S Yale fencer wins bronze and makes history at Olympics ASSET-Dell deal provides discounts on home computers . . .

78. Judo News Japan produce new king of judo by historic olympic campaign new king of judoand wrapped up the most successful olympic campaign in the history of their http://www.topix.net/martial-arts/judo

Advanced Search Enter ZIP, City or News Search Judo News All Channels Front Page Autos Business ... XML Sports NFL teams... Collegiate football ... Tennis Judo News continually updated from thousands of sources around the net. Front Page Sports News Martial Arts Judo A summer vacation to remember Even the idea of spending a week at a funny smelling relative's house. But for Katie Sell, her summer vacation took her to Japan twice, for a grand total of 24,668 miles traveled. Art of Verbal Judo Verbal Judo: The Gentle Art of Persuasion Verbal Judo, or tactical communication, is the gentle art of persuasion that redirects others' behavior with words and generates voluntary compliance. Howorun facing major decision It will soon be decision time for Stefanie Howorun. By the end of the year the Brampton athlete said she will make up her mind whether it will be judo or wrestling in her future. South Korea beat Japan to win judo gold CAIRO: South Korea stunned favourites Japan to take the men's team title as the world championships drew to a close on Monday. St. Petersburg to host sixth Universal Fight World Championship

79. Judo Article Archives By KeepMedia Japan brought the curtain down on the most successful olympic judo campaign intheir history by sweeping the men s and women s heavyweight titles by http://www.topix.net/martial-arts/judo/keepmedia

Advanced Search Enter ZIP, City or News Search Judo Article Archives by KeepMedia All Channels Front Page Autos Business ... Site Map Sports NFL teams... Collegiate football ... Tennis Judo archived articles from KeepMedia. Front Page Sports News Martial Arts Judo KeepMedia Throw Down (Rudao Longhu Bang) A Sil-Metropole presentation of a China Star Entertainment, Milky Way Image production. Looking for some change, wrestling eyes the beach ATHENS Here comes beach wrestling, headlocks in the sand. FILA, wrestling's world governing body, voted here to make major format changes starting next year for world and Olympic tournaments of the usual sort indoor on mats. Japan produce new king of judo by historic Olympic campaign Japan produced a new king of judo and wrapped up the most successful Olympic campaign in the history of their beloved sport by sweeping the men's and women's heavyweight titles with knockouts. Japan top off judo campaign with record eight gold medals Japan brought the curtain down on the most successful Olympic judo campaign in their history by sweeping the men's and women's heavyweight titles by knockout. Israeli doesn't let debate pin him down ATHENS Hundreds of Israeli fans, many cloaked in their blue and white flag or waving it wildly, celebrated one of their nation's rare Olympic medals Thursday when Ariel Zeevi won a bronze in judo's 220-pound class.

80. Judo History Archive By M. Tripp judo history lesson by M.Tripp, archived fom submission fighting.com. However; it must be noted that the changes from Kodokan judo to olympic judo did http://members.lycos.co.uk/fight/judo/judo.html

The Submission Judo Archives JUDO HISTORY by M. Tripp Before I begin; lets understand the ground rules. Disagree if you wish; but you are going to have to do it with facts not emotion. You will have to back up your statements with historical facts. The history of BJJ/GJJ is a cloudy one; made so by people who wish to "sell" it. Miscalling people like Maeda and Kimura jujutsu people is a glaring example of this. To this end; we are going to have to define once and for all what jujutsu is; and what judo is. Subsets are not really the issue. In terms of what came from Japan, and then became BJJ/GJJ; EITHER it is jujutsu or judo. There is NO middle ground here. Jujutsu (jiujitsu or jujitsu are incorrect spellings; Check out Secrets of unlocking Aikijujutsu for full chapter and verse on this); was a traditional Bujutsu ryu-ha of old Japan. As a traditional ryu-ha; it was taught and practiced in a certain way. Dragger spells this out plainly in his works on Bujutsu both old and modern; to wit 1. No Belt Ranks 2. No sparring, only kata and one steps 3. Training for the Battlefield only I could post more but you get the point. ALL traditional bujutsus were about killing someone in the course of defending or storming a castle, or fighting a large-scale battle. In the case of Jujutsu it was about getting free to kill someone. The skills of grappling in armour with a tanto; getting your arms free to draw a sword, etc., THIS is the basis for the traditional ryu-ha's of Jujutsu. Now; BUDO unlike Bujutsu, was always about the person, not the group. The change from bujutsu wasn't about "watering down" techniques; but rather changing them to apply to the new world they lived in. People were not wearing swords; or storming and defending castles anymore. The focus of the training had to change with the times.

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