81. MetroG | Matthew Veritas Tsien GAYS ARE MISGUIDED TO SUPPORT socialized medicine From a distance, Canadamay seem to have it all modern medicine and universal insurance. http://www.metrog.com/interact/mtsien/050707_socialized.html

metroG Archives Main Directory metroG Homepage metroG EventGuide metroG Locations metroG Matthew Tsien Contact Us Send any of our associates an e-Mail. Contact our marketing or content departments. Send Mail What do you want to know today? Matthew Veritas Tsien @ metroG ... GAYS ARE MISGUIDED TO SUPPORT SOCIALIZED MEDICINE The woes of being on a waiting list are all too common ... by Matthew Veritas Tsien - metroG Associate July 7, 2005 Many gay voters and activists are government health-care enthusiasts in the United States and have long looked to Canada as a leading light of health care fairness and equity. From a distance, Canada may seem to have it all: modern medicine and universal insurance. Up close the story is quite different. On June 9, the Supreme Court of Canada called the system dangerous and deadly, striking down key laws and turning the country's vaunted health care system on its head. The ruling aptly symbolizes the declining enthusiasm for socialized medicine even in socialist nations. American legislators such as those in the California Senate who approved a single-payer plan this month should take note; so should many gay activists and voters.

82. Political Affairs Magazine - Capitalism Gone Mad: It's Harmful To Your Health The modern people in the developed world have had socialized medicine for prices that they get from socialized medicine systems in England, Canada, http://www.politicalaffairs.net/article/view/673/1/77

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83. 411mania.com » Politics » The Murmur Of Crow 06.24.05-Blame Canada...Again The origin of the word “Canada” comes from the HuronIroquoian word, KANA-TA, The simple downside to socialized medicine is that people will abuse it. http://www.411mania.com/politics/topics/article.php?news_id=8137

84. Rex Morgan's Prescription: Socialized Medicine In U.S. | Physicians For A Nation Home Rex Morgan s prescription socialized medicine in US Supporters ofsocialized health care in Canada and the United States have a seemingly http://www.pnhp.org/news/2002/august/rex_morgans_prescrip.php

Join PNHP Contact Us About PNHP Search Only: News Publications Get the Facts Our Proposals Media Inquiries News and Updates Take Action Join PNHP About PNHP Other Links Skip over navigation Home Rex Morgan's prescription: socialized medicine in U.S. document.write(""); Rex Morgan's prescription: socialized medicine in U.S. August 29, 2002 JAMES ADAMS NATIONAL ARTS CORRESPONDENT Supporters of socialized health care in Canada and the United States have a seemingly unlikely friend in Rex Morgan M.D., the handsome, deeply decent physician who has been a staple of newspaper comics since 1948. So far there's no record of the Romanow health care commission or the U.S. Secretary of Health having consulted the fictional doctor. However, as any of the 30 million readers of the syndicated strip carried by 300 newspapers in 15 countries can tell you, Rex has come out foursquare in favour of what his creator calls "a single-payer, state-supported health care system." Interestingly, the man behind Rex Morgan's position isn't some "communist or liberal socialist" although he has received plenty of mail calling him that, and worse. He's Woody Wilson, a 55-year-old registered Republican from Tempe, Ariz., who voted for George W. Bush in the 2000 elections. "I believe the country that is supposedly the richest and most powerful in the world shouldn't be forcing its citizens to choose between paying their mortgage or saving their lives. Yet that is what is happening with millions of Americans right now," Mr. Wilson said in an interview this week.

85. Bay Windows From a distance, Canada may seem to have it all modern medicine and the declining enthusiasm for socialized medicine even in socialist nations. http://cpsite.collegepublisher.com/palm/palm3.cfm?storyid=962483&paper_name=Bay

86. Socialized Medicine - Information & News percent) now think health care coverage should be a ?guarantee? as in Canada,Britain and other nations. socialized medicine Information News http://www.news-medical.net/?keyword=Socialized medicine

87. Conservative Truth - Danger On Our Northern Border - Tom Barrett - 2003-07-14 But many Canadians have nothing good to say about socialized medicine. These arethe people who are so ill that they can’t afford the months of waiting to http://www.conservativetruth.org/article.php?id=1827

88. Health | Canada.com Hit and RunAnd socialized medicine in places such as Canada and England benifit from the What is clear is that socialist medicine in Canada has retarded Cananda s http://www.canada.com/health/story.html?id=15C1651B-B318-4CAB-BE39-F605E466B32B

89. Jeff Jacoby: The Wrong Rx The claims endlessly repeated by proponents of socialized medicine that it is Because the number of doctors in Canada is artificially restricted, http://www.townhall.com/columnists/jeffjacoby/jj20050328.shtml

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90. Moving To Canada, Eh? - Let Slate Help You Decide If It's Really For You. By Dah Five out of seven Fraysters surveyed agree It s time to move to Canada. It isn t about loonies or toonies or socialized medicine. http://slate.msn.com/id/2109300/

placeAd(1,'slate.news/slate') Print E-mail Discuss Newsletters ... About Us Search Slate Advanced Search placeAd(3,'slate.homepage/slate') placeAd(6,'slate.homepage/slate'); low concept Dubious and far-fetched ideas. Moving to Canada, Eh? Let Slate help you decide if it's really for you. By Dahlia Lithwick and Alex Lithwick Updated Friday, Nov. 5, 2004, at 3:37 PM PT Five out of seven Fraysters surveyed agree: It's time to move to Canada. And it looks like those Fraysters may just be the thin edge of a disenfranchised wedge. The Web is buzzing as newspapers report hundreds of threats to move north, from unhappy Democrats in New York California Oregon Ohio ... Illinois , and, well, Massachusetts (which is really sort of Canada already). The possible Canadian monopoly on disaffected American emigrants prompted nervous Europeans to redouble their efforts to be the place disenchanted Americans go to die. The Canadian immigration Web site had 179,000 visitors Wednesday —six times its usual traffic—the vast majority of which came from the United States. Suggestions to accommodate this mass defection northward include the Toronto Star 's proposal to gerrymander the border and this newly redrawn map . A Web site belonging to this generous collective of sexy Canadians willing to marry Americans —no questions asked—has had 14,000 visitors since Monday. While some demoralized liberals attempt to muster earnest

91. Nalo Hopkinson Fortified with codeine (yay, for Canada, where we can buy it over the counter! Angel, I am so glad that I live in the land of socialized medicine. http://www.sff.net/people/nalo/writing/2005/02/safely-in-montreal-where-it-is-co

@import url("http://www.blogger.com/css/blog_controls.css"); @import url("http://www.blogger.com/dyn-css/authorization.css?blogID=3183083"); @import url(http://www.blogger.com/css/navbar/main.css); @import url(http://www.blogger.com/css/navbar/4.css); BlogThis! Nalo Hopkinson intermittent web diary pertaining to Nalo Hopkinson's writing life Saturday, February 19, 2005 Safely in Montreal, where it is cold, as it was yesterday in Toronto. Glad I brought my long johns. Fortified with codeine (yay, for Canada, where we can buy it over the counter!) my back managed the five hours of sitting. Why, oh why are plane and train seats made in the shape of a letter C? Before the codeine kicked it, trying to sit back was quite painful. I was envisioning having to make the whole trip perched on the very edge of the seat. Left my return ticket on the train (see "codeine," above). So I may just have to stay in Montreal from now on. Right? Being lazy right now, but I need to go and search out lunch and renew my French skills on unsuspecting citizens of this most fair city. posted by Nalo @ 12:18 PM 13 comments 13 Comments: At 10:26 PM Tade Thompson said...

92. TCS: Tech Central Station - Barbarians Invading The Barbarian Invasions is an impressive canadian film. to do with it Ivoted for socialized health care, and I m prepared to suffer the consequences! http://www.techcentralstation.com/010204B.html

HOME related articles Bugs in the System for Treating the Flu Bug Foreign Drugs Will Bring Liability Headaches for States As California Goes... Exodus! Movement of the Doctors ... Border Crossings Font Size: Barbarians Invading By John R. Graham Published E-Mail Bookmark Print Save © 2003 Miramax The Barbarian Invasions is an impressive Canadian film. (Yes, we do make them). The movie won two awards at the 2003 Cannes Film Festival: Best Screenplay and Best Actress, and is currently playing in a number of US cities. It is the story of a man dying of a terminal disease who renews his relationships with his friends and family, especially his adult son. Much of the action takes place in a hospital in Montreal Quebec , where director and screenwriter Denys Arcand dissects the Canadian health care system. (I write this review as the province of Quebec recovers from a streak of violence by health workers' unions. The Quebec government recently announced policies to increase the contracting out of some services to private providers, which obviously attacks those unions' interests. Rioters vandalized a children's hospital where the Premier made a speech, and invaded politicians' offices, hurling pig manure.) The film opens with a nun struggling down the corridor of a crowded ward to administer Holy Communion: patients, health professionals, even electricians, are tripping over each other, packed into an environment of general confusion. And yet, there is another floor of the hospital that is completely closed. Why? We learn from the manager that this is due to a government directive. (Although I'm in another province on the other side of the country from

93. Theindependent.com's Bulletin Board: Wait Times Under Socialized Medicine (Canad Author, Topic Wait times under socialized medicine (Canada) The Wait TimeAlliance of Canada has compiled a list of medically acceptable wait times http://forums.theindependent.com/cgi-bin/bb/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=13;t=

94. How To Stop A Tax Increase By David R. Henderson Canada s socialized medicine is really a form of price controls, with the price Canada’s socialized medicine is popular with most Canadians because most http://www.lewrockwell.com/henderson/henderson5.html

How To Stop a Tax Increase by David R. Henderson by David R. Henderson In my earlier piece on January 2 , I told how I reluctantly became involved in the fight against a ½ cent increase in the local sales tax to fund Natividad, a badly managed government hospital. Lawrence Samuels, the person who encouraged me to help him out, was my co-debater on a panel with Mark Tunzi and Melissa Larsen, two doctors from Natividad. This narrative picks up where the earlier one left off, telling of our November 11 debate at a forum packed heavily with supporters of Measure Q, the sales tax increase. Over and over again, people asked versions of the question, "What happens to health care for uninsured people when Natividad closes?" Lawrence and I kept answering that we couldn't know that it would close and that if it did, it would probably turn into a private hospital. In retrospect, I think this question wore me down. What I should have done each time is answered the question completely and then each time gone on to raise another point against Measure Q so that questioners in the audience would see that there was a cost to their side from asking the question. I did think of something, however, that was almost as good. After about the sixth time the question, "What do you do about medical care for poor people when Natividad closes down?", I said:

95. Canada Court Says Private Medicine OK Canada court says private medicine OK Americas News. http://news.monstersandcritics.com/southamerica/article_1009987.php/Canada_court

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96. OpinionJournal - Featured Article Unsocialized medicine A landmark ruling exposes Canada s healthcare inequity . The socialist claim is that a single-payer system is more equal than one http://www.opinionjournal.com/editorial/feature.html?id=110006813

97. Rush Limbaugh: Canadian Doctors Debate And Poll Rush Limbaugh canadian Doctors Debate Poll Forum and Books. Magazines,canadian International Delivery! Youdebate.com Polls http://www.youdebate.com/DEBATES/rush_canadian_doctors.HTM

Rush Limbaugh: Canadian Doctors Debate and Poll Was Rush Limbaugh right ? PRO Where Your Ideas can change Minds CON Gift Magazine Subscriptions Magazines, Subscribe or Renew Youdebate.com Polls Was Rush Limbaugh right ? YES NO by CgiScripts.Net To add to the Debates YouDebate Forums Pro and Con Rush Limbaugh Books More Rush Debates and Polls More Health Debates and Polls For Debates and Polls On All Topics YouDebate Home To add to the Debates YouDebate New Forum YouDebate Old Forum YouDebate E-mail Magazine Index PRO 1 Rush Limbaugh, "Most Canadian physicians who are themselves in need of surgery, for example, scurry across the border to get it done right: the American way. They have found, through experience, that state medical care is too expensive, too slow and inefficient, and, most important, it doesn't provide adequate care for most people." ( Told You So , p. 153) CON 2 "Mr. Limbaugh's claim simply isn't true," says Dr. Hugh Scully, chair of the Canadian Medical Association's Council on Healing and Finance. "The vast majority of Canadians, including physicians, receive their care here in Canada. Those few Canadians who receive health care in the U.S. most often do because they have winter homes in the Stateslike Arizona and Floridaand have emergent health problems there." Medical care in Canada is hardly "too expensive"; it's provided free and covered by taxes.

98. Cafe Hayek: It Ain't Free. It Ain't Fair. It Ain't Healthy. And yet, many canadians continue to fancy themselves lucky to be saddled Don Boudreaux writes that the canadian healthcare system the rules and http://cafehayek.typepad.com/hayek/2005/03/it_aint_free_it.html

hostName = '.typepad.com'; Cafe Hayek where orders emerge Email Don Boudreaux Email Russ Roberts Links George Mason Department of Economics InvisibleHeart.com Subscribe to this blog's feed Categories Agriculture Antitrust Archaeological Economics Books ... Main March 21, 2005 It Ain't Free. It Ain't Fair. It Ain't Healthy. Among the finest articles ever written by my formidable colleague and co-blogger Russ Roberts is this essay , originally appearing ten years ago in the Wall Street Journal , on the problems that arise when decisions to consume are separated from decisions to pay. If you’ll pay a substantial share of the cost of whatever it is I choose to consume, I’ll choose to consume more than I would if I were responsible for paying my full consumption bill. In short, if you're footing most or all of my consumption bill, I'll consume irresponsibly. The point seems to me to be incontestably correct. And yet, many Canadians continue to fancy themselves "lucky" to be saddled with such a system for providing their health care. Read the words of the Canadian lawyer quoted in this report . Go figure. How on earth can a system that invites consumers to treat a scarce good as if it were free possibly work? Isn’t it inevitable – isn’t it utterly unavoidable – that any such system will suffer dysfunctions and troubles that make consumers worse off rather than better off? The story linked to above details some of the predicable maladies now infecting Canada’s insanely stupid health-care system.

99. Dean's World - I Love Canada Here s one thing I like about Canada ? and it doesn t have anything to do withsocialized medicine ? Mark Wickens, one of my favorite bloggers, http://www.deanesmay.com/posts/1090507895.shtml

Dean's World Defending the liberal tradition in history, science, and philosophy. I Love Canada Dean I love Canada. Seriously, I do. It is one of the greatest nations that has ever existed on this Earth. I do not say that lightly, or sarcastically. It is a wonderful country. That said? Bill Quick explains why, as I've said many times, I do not want your health-care system You've got some good ideas there, but it's not how I want my country to do things. I think you guys need to learn some lessons about the free market in that department. Not that we're perfect here in the States, far from it, but.... Posted by Dean Permalink 0 Trackbacks link Lynn Weaver ( www In my neighborhood, we always joke that we're a five minute walk to a five hour wait at our local hospital. It is by no means a perfect system but I shudder at the thought of having to pay to be seen at the walk-in clinic just to get a prescription that is already too expensive. Oh, and Canada loves you too, Dean :-) link DSmith ( mail www I used to love Canada. But that was back when I thought they were our friends. I don't think that anymore. That certainly hasn't made me hate Canada or anything, but I don't love them anymore. Indifference is about the best they can get from me now. link Mike ( mail Still ove Canada. I have relatives over there and they are a good crowd to hang with.

100. Gore Endorses Canada's Medical System - Mises Institute Socialist medicine is Egalitarian. It is no secret that most Canadians andEuropeans consider themselves to be morally superior to Americans, http://www.mises.org/story/1102

About Us Mission Ludwig Who? Murray Who? ... Forum Monday, September 19, 2005 Gore Endorses Canada's Medical System by William Anderson [Posted on Wednesday, November 20, 2002] In a recent newspaper interview, Al Gore finally came out of the socialist closet and declared that the "solution" to what he deems as a "crisis" in U.S. medical care is for the government to impose a "single payer system." While some folks might consider Gore's remarks a setback to the possibilities of actually establishing free market healthcare in this country, actually I believe it presents an opportunity for advocates of freedom and private property to make the case that should have been made all along. It would seem to the casual observer that Gore's remarks come at a curious time, his party having suffered some terrible electoral defeats in the last election cycle. Furthermore, a proposal to create a Canadian-like system in leftist Oregon was defeated 80–20 at the polls. Surely if Oregon voters, many of whom are as left-wing as their counterparts in San Francisco, were not willing to impose a socialist system in their state, I doubt that the majority of American voters are going to imitate Canada. Then again, never underestimate the awful possibilities that democracy can create, especially since the driving force of modern politics is raw envy. At the same time, it seems that Gore has forgotten that the present Republican majorities in Congress are due in large part to the failed "HillaryCare" initiative of nearly a decade ago when the Clinton Administration attempted to

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