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Supply and migration of Canadian physicians, 1970-1995: why we should learn to love an immigrant doctor.: An article from: Canadian Journal of Regional Science by Hugh Grant, Ronald Oertel, 1997-03-22
French health-care reform: 30,000 uninsured: France's experience offers a caution to Canadians seeking similar health-care reform.(WORLD): An article from: Catholic New Times by Tom Sandborn, 2006-05-21
Senate Committee study on Canada's health care system.: An article from: Canadian Parliamentary Review by Jeffrey J. MacLeod, Howard Chodos, 2003-03-22
Pay attention to values.(Canadian health care system)(Editorial): An article from: Catholic New Times
Caring for profit: how corporations are taking over Canada's health care system.: An article from: Labour/Le Travail
Etude du systeme de sante canadien par le Comite senatorial.: An article from: Revue parlementaire canadienne by Jeffrey J. MacLeod, Howard Chodos, 2003-03-22

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Right Thinking From The Left Coast
The Canadians are so proud of their free universal health care. The enormouscosts of socialized medicine explain at least some of this disparity in
http://right-thinking.com/index.php/C12/

Extractions: Outlasting Air America since 2003 I Don't Need to Stay at a Holiday Inn Express to Know This is Bunk British researchers analyzed rates of female murders and male death rates from all causes in 51 countries in Europe, Asia, Australasia, and North and South America. The prevalence of violence against women was used to indicate the extent of patriarchal control in each of the countries. Socioeconomic factors were also taken into consideration. The study found that women lived longer than men in all 51 countries. The study also found that those countries with higher rates of female murders (indicating higher levels of patriarchy) also had higher rates for male death and shorter male life expectancies, compared to countries with lower female murder rates, the researchers said.
Amy Ridenour's National Center Blog: Socialized Medicine A Human Rights Violatio
socialized medicine a Human Rights Violation? Canada has a problem. Its governmentrunhealth system is deadly. Now Canada s Supreme Court has ruled that
http://www.nationalcenter.org/2005/06/socialized-medicine-human-rights.html

Extractions: var site="sm9nation" @import url("http://www.blogger.com/css/blog_controls.css"); @import url("http://www.blogger.com/dyn-css/authorization.css?blogID=5524505"); What [Some] Conservatives Think Canada has a problem. Its government-run health system is deadly. Now Canada's Supreme Court has ruled that the system's long waiting lists violate the Quebec charter of human rights and freedoms. More from the New York Times: The Canadian health care system provides free doctor's services that are paid for by taxes. The system has generally been strongly supported by the public, and is broadly identified with the Canadian national character. Canada is the only industrialized county that outlaws privately financed purchases of core medical services.
Canada's Fatal Error --- Health Care As A Right (Part I)
There is something wrong with medicine in Canada today. This conclusion can andprobably Did not the profession agree to be part of socialized medicine?
http://www.haciendapub.com/aubrey.html

Extractions: There is something wrong with medicine in Canada today. This conclusion can and probably has been reached by any member of the profession who has paused from his or her daily endeavors to consider the current state of medicine in this country. Despite rather remarkable advances in the art and science of medicine patient care is deteriorating. The availability of medical services is diminishing and waiting lists are growing longer. Patients are often obliged to seek medical care in facilities far from home. The cost of health care in Canada has been spiralling upwards out of control, and predictions for the future portend the collapse of what was once an excellent health care system. Caught in the middle of the unfolding disaster is the Canadian physician. On one side the profession finds itself beset by abusive governments that seek to offset the collapse by controlling the physician and the way he practices his profession. On the other side is the public who, for the past quarter century has been told by the organizers of socialized medicine that health care is now "free," and that all they need do is to profess a need for any service and it will be provided. With the consequent open ended demand being placed on finite resources it was only a matter of time before the situation deteriorated to its current state.
Canada's Fatal Error --- Health Care As A Right (Part II)
In Part I of this essay, we discussed how Canada committed the fatal error of The politicians could not reverse socialized medicine as that would be
http://www.haciendapub.com/aubrey1.html

Extractions: In Part I of this essay, we discussed how Canada committed the fatal error of proclaiming that health care is a right and ended up with socialized medicine. In Part II, we will now discuss the long term consequences of this decision. Perhaps, the U.S. can learn from our mistake. The Laws of Supply and Demand To begin to understand some of the long term consequences of declaring medical care to be a right we must understand exactly what happens when a society makes such a declaration. What is it that actually takes place when what is clearly a product is considered to be a right? Other than giving liberals and conservatives alike the warm fuzzies, what is really going to occur? The critical event is the breaking of the direct economic link between the producer of health care, the doctor, and the consumer of health care, the patient. With the severing of the economic link between producer and consumer, a very important financial check on the system was lost. The patient no longer had to be concerned about being financially responsible for his or her own health care. He could profess a need for virtually anything available and the state would provide it. The physician no longer worried about whether or not a patient could pay for any given test or treatment. He could order and do anything for the patient and the bill was paid. Hence with the advent of socialized medicine concerns with respect to costs became, on an individual level, irrelevant.
OpinionJournal - Cross Country
This great leap forward into socialized medicine can be traced to the governorshipof Madeleine She was committed to a Canadastyle single-payer system.
http://www.opinionjournal.com/cc/?id=110006652
Crooked Timber » » Good Old Socialized Medicine
Good old socialized medicine. Posted by Daniel that they used was originallydeveloped in Canada, so itsa double win for socialized medical research.
http://crookedtimber.org/2005/03/10/good-old-socialized-medicine/

Extractions: My five minutes of fame Main Posted by Daniel Congratulations to the team at The temptation is almost overpowering to speculate that the reason this particular procedure was developed outside the USA posted on Thursday, March 10th, 2005 at 8:09 am comments So where are my islets, Dude? Posted by dsquared March 10th, 2005 at 7:14 pm The first such case in the UK, that is. Succesful islet transplantations have been carried on for a number of years in the US. The U of M has a longstanding program. Posted by eudoxis Â· March 10th, 2005 at 7:32 pm Richard Lane, 61, becomes the first diabetes 1 patient in the UK to be cured after receiving beta cells (insulin making cells) from dead patients. hmmm Posted by Jake Â· March 10th, 2005 at 8:41 pm A number of years indeed: The transplant was performed successfully for the first time in 1999 Posted by neil Â· March 10th, 2005 at 8:42 pm Just goes to show how wrong you can be I suppose. Posted by dsquared March 10th, 2005 at 9:00 pm Posted by Alan Â· March 10th, 2005 at 9:08 pm
Weekly Standard, The: Socialized Medicine On Life Support: The Supreme Court Of
socialized medicine on life support the Supreme Court of Canada finally getsone right. Weekly Standard, The, June 27, 2005 by David Gratzer
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Extractions: Advocate, The Air Force Journal of Logistics Air Force Law Review Air Force Speeches ... View all titles in this topic Hot New Articles by Topic Automotive Sports Top Articles Ever by Topic Automotive Sports Socialized medicine on life support: the Supreme Court of Canada finally gets one right Weekly Standard, The June 27, 2005 by David Gratzer Save a personal copy of this article and quickly find it again with Furl.net. It's free! Save it. GOVERNMENT HEALTH-CARE enthusiasts in the United States have long looked to Canada as a leading light of health care fairness and equity. From a distance, Canada may seem to have it all: modern medicine and universal insurance. Up close, the story is quite different. On June 9, the Supreme Court of Canada called the system dangerous and deadly, striking down key laws and turning the country's vaunted health care system on its head. The ruling aptly symbolizes the declining enthusiasm for socialized medicine even in socialist nations. American legislatorssuch as those in the California Senate who approved a single-payer plan this monthshould take note.
Washington Monthly: What Hillary Could Learn From Canada And Germany - National
Full text of the article, What Hillary could learn from Canada and Germany national health care Unlike England, they do not have socialized medicine.
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Extractions: Advocate, The Air Force Journal of Logistics Air Force Law Review Air Force Speeches ... View all titles in this topic Hot New Articles by Topic Automotive Sports Top Articles Ever by Topic Automotive Sports What Hillary could learn from Canada and Germany - national health care - includes related article Washington Monthly March, 1994 by Susan Fitzgerald Mark Jaffe Save a personal copy of this article and quickly find it again with Furl.net. It's free! Save it. Josefa Hagel was resting comfortably in a bed at Schwabing Hospital in Munich. She had been there for nearly two weeks, but tomorrow she would go home. The 92-year-old Hagel had been rushed to the hospital with the classic signs of a heart attackshortness of breath and chest pains. But days of tests and monitoring revealed no serious problem. Hagel, a sprightly woman with gray hair and sparkling gray eyes, had spent her time at Schwabing, the oldest of Munich's municipal hospitals, in an austere, semi-private room with well-worn furnishings and no telephone or television.
NCPA - Health Issues - Socialized Medicine Canada Style: Nobody Likes It
Among the other results of Canada s system of socialized medicine the governmenthas been delisting previously covered services and rationing of care to
http://www.ncpa.org/health/pdh36b.html

Extractions: To hold down skyrocketing costs and still comply with mandates of the Canadian Health Care Act which requires universal health coverage from the government the province of Ontario passed a so-called Savings and Restructuring Act earlier this year. It attempts to attack the problem of out-of-control costs by rationing and price controls. In June 1995, after four years of socialist rule during which the provincial government's debt load doubled Ontarians elected a conservative government which drastically reduced spending. In January, Ontario passed the Savings and Restructuring Act. Although aimed at cutting costs it has had these results: Ontario physicians have become civil servants although without pensions or unemployment insurance.
NCPA - Daily Policy Digest - The Sorry Plight Of Canada's Socialized Health-Care
In Canada, health care is a state monopoly socialized medicine called universalcare that has developed a deservedly bad reputation, observers say.
http://www.ncpa.org/iss/hea/2002/pd090302b.html

Extractions: Despite spending more money per capita than any other country with a similar system, Canadian health care ranks on a par with that of Turkey, Hungary and Poland. Canada ranks 18th in access to MRIs, 17th in access to CT scanners, eighth in access to radiation machines and 13th in access to lithotripters, which are used for treating kidney stones. Canadians do somewhat better in terms of health-treatment outcomes but that is due in part to their option to come to the U.S. for services that would be unavailable or dangerously delayed at home. All of the countries that beat Canada in outcomes have parallel systems of private health insurance and care delivery operating alongside the government system.
No Illusions
socialized medicine at work Canada has shortage of doctors, other health careworkers. Our northern neighbors cant figure out why they have the lowest
http://www.illusionfree.com/weblog/index.php/no_illusions/niperm/20040819_2/

Extractions: Kerry Vietnam Fiction Roundup V The Canadian Medical Association is asking the Canadian government for a $C1 billion infusion to recruit and retain doctors and other health care workers. Proposals include recruitment from foreign countries. According the the story in New York Newsday At its annual meeting in Toronto on Tuesday, the Canadian Medical Association said health-reform experts have identified shortfalls among all types of physicians, nurses and technicians as a major obstacle to reducing long waiting lists for procedures that include joint replacement, heart bypass and cancer care. A report by the association analyzing the shortfall shows Canada has 2.1 physicians per 1,000 residents, ranking it 25th out of 30 countries in the Organization for Economic Co-operation and Development , a forum that assesses economic and social policy.
Single-payer Is Bad Medicine For Ohio - The Buckeye Institute
Are Ohioans ready for socialized medicine? Joining a ballot initiative One estimate places the cost of Canada s singlepayer system at 21 cents for
http://www.buckeyeinstitute.org/article.php?id=73
The Socialized Medicine Page
The socialized medicine Page is a discussion of Hillarycare, medical privacy In other words, no matter how much money Canadians can afford to pay,
http://www.akdart.com/medicine.html

Extractions: You may recall that co-President Hillary Clinton tried to arrange for the government to take over the health care industry (and take over 1/7th of the nation's economy) in 1993. Fortunately that failed, so the Democrats are trying a new approach. The term "Patients' Bill of Rights" indicates that (1) people are being led to believe that health insurance is a right, and (2) this issue is as important as (or at least on a par with) the first ten amendments to the U.S. Constitution.
Can 7,700 Doctors Be Wrong On Health Care?
1 Canada s System of socialized medicine Provides Sufficient Money to DeliverCare to All. Canada spends about 9% of its GDP on health care and provides
http://www.usanext.org/full_story.cfm?article_id=19&category_id=4
What Exactly Is Meant By Two-Tiered Medicine?
In the end, I am still a believer of socialized medicine. See also CanadaConsiders a TwoTiered Health Care System, Knee-Jerk Rejection of Two-Tiered
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Extractions: There is nothing more confusing to me than people making references to two tiers in health care. I am totally confounded by this term and it seems to only apply to MRI machines, ignoring the other 99% of medicine. The provision of health care in Canada already occurs on at least seven different tiers that I can think of. We tend to console ourselves in the belief of our socialized system. We even have a national set of laws termed The Canada Health Act that was meant to guarantee the same medical care to all Canadians. It was well intentioned when enacted, but with time, we overwhelmed our ability to provide state of the art medicine and the price of advanced technology was too great to provide for all. No matter how wealthy or poor, Canadians all get the same level of care. Or do we? In Ontario, most residents are covered by a provincial insurance plan called
Rex Morgan S Prescription? Socialized Medicine In US
socialized medicine in US. by James Adams. Supporters of socialized health carein Canada and the United States have a seemingly unlikely friend in Rex
http://www.commondreams.org/headlines02/0827-01.htm

Extractions: Printer Friendly Version E-Mail This Article Published on Tuesday, August 27, 2002 in the Rex Morgan's Prescription? Socialized Medicine in US by James Adams Supporters of socialized health care in Canada and the United States have a seemingly unlikely friend in Rex Morgan M.D. , the handsome, deeply decent physician who has been a staple of newspaper comics since 1948. So far there's no record of the Romanow health care commission or the U.S. Secretary of Health having consulted the fictional doctor. Mr. Wilson has been writing Rex Morgan M.D. , a sort of soap opera in comic form, since 1991, having worked as an apprentice under its originator, psychiatrist Nicholas Dallis (now deceased), since 1982. Under Mr. Wilson, Rex Morgan hasn't hesitated to tackle domestic violence, epilepsy, drug abuse, AIDS, organ transplants, asthma and sexual harassment. But in recent months Mr. Wilson has pulled his rock-jawed hero firmly into the far more dicey arena of health policy, even sending him to Washington, D.C., to testify before legislators. The strip's current storyline is dealing with the fallout from the death of Rex Morgan's friend, Dick Coleman, who lost his job after being diagnosed with colon cancer. Losing the job resulted in the loss of his family's health coverage and the threatened foreclosure on the mortgage on the Colemans' home.
Alice In Universal Health-Care Land: Myths And Facts
FACT A singlepayer universal health plan is not socialized medicine.Under socialized medicine, the government owns the hospitals and clinics.
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Extractions: FACT: A single-payer universal system would cost no more than we're already spending on health care, according to studies by the Congressional Budget Office, the General Accounting Office (GAO), the Lewin Group, and the Boston University School of Public Health. The GAO estimates if the United States changed to a universal single-payer system, it would save in the short run: $34 billion in insurance overhead and $33 billion in hospital and physician administrative costs. This savings would come from providing timely care to those who would otherwise delay care, thereby becoming sicker and more expensive to treat.
FMN: Policy Spotlight, March-April 1998, Socialized Medicine
This month focuses on socialized medicine. The number of Canadians travelingto the US to seek better medical care or to avoid wait times has been
http://www.hazlitt.org/spotlight/9803.html

Extractions: Ludwig von Mises , "Liberalism: The Classical Tradition" Around the world, health care costs are spiraling upwards. There are more uninsured people than ever before. National health systems are running low on funds and being forced to ration care. China has had to reduce the level of benefits for its citizens and require them to pay for some of their own medical supplies. They have even been encouraging private and charitable organizations to provide health care to the Chinese people in order to reduce the burden on the state. But less government involvement isn't viewed as the right solution everywhere.
Say Anything » Socialized Medicine Beats Out The Great One
An Inferior System Of medicine The Wonders of socialized medicine All Ican say is that, being from Seattle, I know many Canadians who are living in
http://sayanythingblog.com/2004/12/10/socialized-medicine-beats-out-the-great-on

Extractions: @import url( http://sayanythingblog.com/wordpress/wp-content/themes/sayanything2005/style.css ); Home By Rob on December 10, 2004 at 9:27 am Notice: - A database snafu in January 2005 ate a bunch of posts at this blog. This was one of them. Related Posts: Andrew on December 10, 2004 at 10:27 am Ben Johnson? Mark on December 10, 2004 at 10:54 am All I can say is that, being from Seattle, I know many Canadians who are living in America either having problems with our healthcare system and/or are retaining their Canadian citizenship in order to get back to their healthcare system when they retire. Chris on December 10, 2004 at 2:41 pm My experience has been just the opposite, Chris. I live in a relatively large community less than 100 miles from the Canadian obrder with a huge health care industry that exist primarily because so many Canadians come down to America in order to get their elective surgery performed. Rob on December 10, 2004 at
Socialized Medicine - Outsourcing?
Canada, which tries to have 100% socialized medicine, has recently seen an upswingin private clinics making use of quasilegal loopholes to provide
http://www.econotarian.org/1089706906/index_html

Extractions: No doubt we will see a lot of sound and fury about health care in the time leading up to the US elections in November. Medicine is a highly emotional topic, and is highly regulated. There is an almost unlimited market to medicine (as examplified by the thousand dollar full body scan and the $17,000-a-month Erbitux cancer drug). Given patients with an unlimited capability to purchase medicine (either with their own or someone else's money), there is almost an unlimted amount of health care that can be bought. Governments are faced with rationing health care by what individuals can pay, or by providing socialized health care with rationing based on "reasonable health care measures," generally determined by a committee and not the person facing imminent death. In most socialized medical regimes, this means long waits for non-emergency procedures. Or you can have a two-tier system, as in the US, where the government provides nearly half of every health care dollar. Those who can afford to can "jump the queue."

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