| From: owner-space1999@buffnet4.buffnet.net (space1999-digest) To: space1999-digest@buffnet4.buffnet.net Subject: space1999-digest V3 #279 Reply-To: Sender: owner-space1999@buffnet4.buffnet.net Errors-To: owner-space1999@buffnet4.buffnet.net Precedence: bulk space1999-digest Thursday, October 28 1999 Volume 03 : Number 279 Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 16:02:05 -0700 (PDT) From: Anthony DiPietro <atd1999@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Space1999: Zienia at MM2000 READ THE WEBSITE!!! How many times must a person say this? Does EVERYONE know the Web site is UP and RUNNING? It's at the Cybrary: http://www.cybrary1999.com Click on the MM:2000 logo. Anthony - - James Smith <jsmith@ncube.com> wrote: > After seeing her performance in "Message from > Moonbase Alpha", I think it > would be fanatastic if Zienia Merton were in a play > at the MM2000 con. As I > understand it, there are "two evenings of theatre" > planned for the con. Any > plans to have Zienia perform? > > Regards, > > James > *********************************************************** > Online Alpha - The Space: 1999 Mailing List > To unsubscribe: send email to majordomo@buffnet.net > and > in the body put unsubscribe space1999 (or > space1999-digest) > *********************************************************** > Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com *********************************************************** Online Alpha - The Space: 1999 Mailing List To unsubscribe: send email to majordomo@buffnet.net and in the body put unsubscribe space1999 (or space1999-digest) *********************************************************** Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 16:35:54 -0700 (PDT) From: Anthony DiPietro <atd1999@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Space1999: Zienia at MM2000 Well, dear, apparently you only read it once, but if you read the News of Oct 25, 1999 you would have read this: "News Flash! So far Zienia Merton and Prentis Hancock have both expressed their willingness and delight to have a go at performing fan-written Space: 1999 parodies onstage at MainMission:2000! See the related news brief on this page dated October 22, 1999 for further details" I told you - read the Website - not once, but every day. Anthony - - James Smith <jsmith@ncube.com> wrote: > atd1999@yahoo.com wrote: > >READ THE WEBSITE!!! How many times must a person > say > >this? > > > >Does EVERYONE know the Web site is UP and > RUNNING?: > > > I DID read the website, I even quoted from it! The > site mentions "two > evenings of theatre" under events, but I saw no > mention of WHO would be > performing. I imagine this hasn't been worked out > yet, so the con committe > may not even know. Sorry all to hell for expressing > me interest in seeing > Zienia perform! > > James > Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com *********************************************************** Online Alpha - The Space: 1999 Mailing List To unsubscribe: send email to majordomo@buffnet.net and in the body put unsubscribe space1999 (or space1999-digest) *********************************************************** Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 21:37:28 EDT From: TERALISHA@aol.com Subject: Space1999: Re: Just for the fun of it! Evening all! I scrubbed my original message(it would have been way too wicked and I decided that we needed laughter) that I was going to send and decided to add to the little limerick thing/sort of. Imagine Commander Koenig, in the shower. He peers out of the shower curtain, cautiously. His eyes are scanning everywhere. And in the background you hear that 80's song: I always feel like somebody's watching me. Whose watching me now, who? The IRS? little whipsering voices: no, it's the Archon, the Dorcons, the Psychons, Taybor! Ok, next one. Imagine Maya sitting in a field somewhere on the most picture perfect summer day. She's got a flower in her hand and she's pulling the petals off. No, they don't screech "murderer!" She says: "He loves me, he loves me not." Ok, so I'm not a creative poetry person but that's what your limericks brought to mind. I refuse to comment on the other posts and other things that came to mind upon reading them due to an effort to retain my sanity. Night! T. *********************************************************** Online Alpha - The Space: 1999 Mailing List To unsubscribe: send email to majordomo@buffnet.net and in the body put unsubscribe space1999 (or space1999-digest) *********************************************************** Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 18:45:47 -0700 (PDT) From: James Stephens <jcstephens_2000@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Space1999: Grace Lee Whitney <ray.connole@lmco.com> wrote: > Wow!! I'd pay big bucks to see her. Who can forget > all her > unforgettable roles after Star Trek? Drug Addict, > Nymphomaniac/Prostitution, the smallest parts in any > Star Trek feature > film due to her fling with Gene Roddenberry. What a > career! Oh, don't > forget her tenuous claim to 1999. Being a murderer > in an Outer Limits > Episode guest starring Barry Morse. Of course! Now it makes perfect sense why Grace Lee Whitney would be a guest. (And the fact that she's not said anything derogatory about Space:1999, at least not that we know of. Perfectly logical.) JC ===== Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com *********************************************************** Online Alpha - The Space: 1999 Mailing List To unsubscribe: send email to majordomo@buffnet.net and in the body put unsubscribe space1999 (or space1999-digest) *********************************************************** Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 23:22:45 EDT From: JTRD1@aol.com Subject: Re: Space1999: Re: Grace Lee Whitney moments In a message dated 10/27/1999 12:22:10 PM Eastern Daylight Time, LOBBJ@gunet.georgetown.edu writes: << Unforgettable Grace Lee Whitney moments from the 1997 Portland Space: 1999 convention: A waitress accidentally spilling diet coke on Grace Lee's hair, which prompted Grace to ask "This won't change my hair color, will it?" (Yeoman Rand to Enterprise, none to beam up!) Grace Lee's Sunday temperance lecture on the evils of alcohol, preached to the driest bunch of fans out there! Who needs church when you have Grace Lee? Grace Lee's comments about the driver of Princess Diana and Dodi el-Fayed's car being drunk and causing the accident. I don't know everything she said, but whatever it was, it caused Barry Morse to get up and leave her table. On the plus side, if Grace Lee comes to the con, that's one lecture I can safely miss! Jenny Lobb lobbj@gunet.georgetown.edu >> I couldn't agree more. Grace being a fan a 1999 is news to me? I was at the 97 Portland Con too, and there were many awkward moments as spoken of above. Perhaps the Con committee should ask Barry Morse how he "honestly" feels about Grace Lee returning. I consider myself an open-minded person, but I only make my remarks based on my experience from the Portland CON. How about another Trek star? What do you think Grace "truly" remembers about Space:1999? I'd be interested to know - especially if that was one of the reasons for inviting her. I think the Con committee should talk to those who attended the Portland CON to get collective thoughts on their opinions about Grace's return. I would hate to think that a 1999 cast member accepts an invitation that can't be afforded because of Grace. This is only my opinion, and I apologize if this is coming off as any kind of slam to the CON committee. Aside from my thoughts on Grace, I am completely impressed with the work of the Con committee. The committee seems very organized at such an early date, and I commend them for all their efforts!! James David *********************************************************** Online Alpha - The Space: 1999 Mailing List To unsubscribe: send email to majordomo@buffnet.net and in the body put unsubscribe space1999 (or space1999-digest) *********************************************************** Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 20:49:22 PDT From: "Michael Rogers" <comlock@hotmail.com> Subject: Space1999: Re:Grace Lee Whitney All that I know is that I met GLW about 3 or 4 years ago and she was a totally wonderful presence. I'm kind of surprised and disapointed at the gossip and hearsay about GLW on this list and the attitudes that are a bad reflection of holier than thou Star Trek fans about Space:1999. Take any typical comment about GLW's career said on this list recently and substitute Zienna Merton and you'll see what I mean. I think I remember where Space:1999 stars have been guests at predomentaly Star Trek cons, why not return the favor? And finally... please be careful before you go talking about how Barry Morse does not get along with Grace Lee Whitney. Maybe Barry had to go to the bathroom when he left the table or maybe he was offended by something she said. Until we ask him which one it was, all this is is GOSSIP! We now return you to the Alpha Inquirer... Mike Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com *********************************************************** Online Alpha - The Space: 1999 Mailing List To unsubscribe: send email to majordomo@buffnet.net and in the body put unsubscribe space1999 (or space1999-digest) *********************************************************** Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 23:37:01 -0600 From: David Welle <dwelle@itol.com> Subject: Space1999: Main Mission: 2000 Alphans, First off, I am not involved with the committee of MM:2000, so these are just my own observations and opinions as a Space: 1999 fan. Inviting a non-S19 guest to a Space: 1999 Convention is not new. There have been at least five guests from four other SF series and movies in past conventions, from Star Trek, Superman, Battlestar Galactica, and V. (I have, BTW, information, including guest lists, on all the past (and future) conventions I could find out about at the Conventions section of Metaforms, at space1999.net) I have read some old fanzines (/Main Computer/, IIRC), and some controversy was generated then as well. I don't recall everything that was written, but they seemed to range from why spend the money in that way, to liking the resulting welcoming aspect of S19 and its fandom. The viewpoints all have validity, in my opinion; but if I may venture my opinions, I feel inviting a non-S19 guest, especially in the context of what I see at the MainMission: 2000 website at the Cybrary, is not a problem. This convention has clearly set very ambitious goals, already having eleven confirmed guests and inviting eleven more, setting up a wide variety of events, some based directly on some of the most successful Breakaway Convention events (I for one would love to get involved in "48 Minutes," having missed it at Breakaway), to some ones that seem new to me. For one thing, one out of 11 guests being non-S19 is only nine percent, and that doesn't bother me in the slightest. Another factor is that the inclusiveness can benefit S19 fandom. There are probably many more one-time casual fans of Space: 1999 that haven't considered involving themselves in fandom, but who might find the combination of a lot of S19 cast and crew, *combined* with someone from Star Trek and/or Buffy the Vampire Slayer (should Juliet Landau accept) to be just enough to draw them in. They might come hesistantly to a Space: 1999 convention, and then discover, if MM:2000 is anything like Breakaway Con was, a friendly and fascinating event and crowd, and might also discover there was a lot more to Space: 1999 than they had remembered. Simply put, they may be drawn in by the variety of guests, but find Space: 1999 and its fandom are worth interest. So instead of weakening Space: 1999, inviting a couple of non-S19 guests could actually help. I think finding strength from unexpected quarters and curious opportunities is a theme in Space: 1999 itself, and I don't mind applying the same idea elsewhere. I think some Star Trek fans will appear (whether it be out of genuine interest in seeing Grace, or of completing a "roster" of seeing ST cast/crew at cons, or whatever), and may return to Trekdom with stories of how Space: 1999 is not the realm of "geeks" or some such thing (as made out to be by /Sci-Fi Universe/ and other publications) or brainwashed, blind devotees of a "failed" two-year series based on a "silly" premise, but is instead a fun and thoughtful crowd of people who are honest about there being problems with the series yet still find much more in the way of depth, enjoyment, and value in Space: 1999. This is all, of course, pure speculation on my part, but that's how I feel. Is Grace Lee Whitney a good choice? Frankly, I have no idea, because I know little about her. Yes, she was something of a minor player in Star Trek, and apparently has a checkered past; but I hear positive things about her too, and I doubt she was picked randomly out of the air by the con committee. I'm willing to wait and see the "method to the madness," as Ellen put it about her and the guest invitations in general. Such methods rarely becoming obvious immediately. :-) She is one guest among many invited, and I am not worried about someone getting bumped off the list for sake of her either, especially since the large number of invited (and already confirmed) guests will likely attract a larger number of attendees as well. On a slightly different note about MM2K.... Some of the general aspects and events are going to appear similar from con to con, whether in S19, Creation Cons (well, those feel *much* more like carbon copies, IMO :-), or wherever; but it is the combination of guests and fans who attend, the location, the unexpected occurances, and other factors that mix together to give the unique feel. I've been to only two S19 cons so far, but I've also been to two ST, two general media SF cons, two literary SF cons, and two science fiction/fact conventions. Four of these five pairs had one thing in common: though sharing some traits, they still felt like memorably different conventions. (Why haven't I been to third instances of each? Well, I almost certainly will with most of these, I'm just not a terribly frequent con-goer in general, depending on what you define as "frequent." :) Given this sort of thing, I think that despite there being some similarities, most people would still come out of MainMission feeling it was a different, distinct event (a lot of people didn't get to Breakaway anyway). I for one wasn't able to attend all the goings on at Breakaway, and though I would have liked to, having attended ten cons over seven years has given me the understanding that I can never catch everything at every Con. Things are scheduled in overlapping times for sake of variety and choice. Not everyone will care to hear every guest talk anyway. Not everyone will want to go to all the other events either. I have only been to one convention that had just one or "one and a half" tracks (the latter being a term I just made up for having two tracks but continually shutting the second down for the sake of things going on in the first), and that was a small (albeit also enjoyable) convention. Some frequent con-goers might likely be less forgiving and say a one-track con is rather pathetic, in their opinion. What I see of the MainMission website is a desire not to copy Breakaway, but to instead build up the momentum and excitement that was started at this last convention, particularly on Breakaway day itself. I was interested in the originally announced 2000 convention idea for the fan fiction emphasis, but am excited by the ambitious goals of what the initial idea has rapidly grown into (and am still happy to see the fiction/writing events planned, and the technical track sounds different and interesting too. :-) This, and "Message From Moonbase Alpha," and other talk all adds to the feeling that Space: 1999 is on an upsurge, and that's new. <G> I learned something interesting at Breakaway. I had felt that Online Alpha was probably just a fraction of active fans, and it was interesting to find out that perhaps only ten percent of Breakaway attendees were Online Alphans. Also, its not much more than a month after Breakaway, and I am surprised by how much has been set up so quickly, as evidenced on the MainMission site. I would guess that's a terrible lot of work. A lot is still in the preliminary stage, I imagine. I am not trying to make excuses for anyone, or anything like that; but I'd say give the committee a chance to get more things settled, especially if some of them are new to arranging a con, especially one this ambitious. It's a lot of work, besides their usual jobs and lives. I'm not worried about getting information. Between the website, the OneList dedicated to the Con, discussion on this list, and some of the committee being on the list, I have no fears we'll hear plenty of information, suggestions, and so on, without having to look too hard. Just my 1.999 cents, - David Welle metaforms@space1999.net Space: 1999 Metaforms http://space1999.net Metaforms Ltd. http://www.itol.com/~dwelle *********************************************************** Online Alpha - The Space: 1999 Mailing List To unsubscribe: send email to majordomo@buffnet.net and in the body put unsubscribe space1999 (or space1999-digest) *********************************************************** Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 23:17:58 -0500 From: "Jeff Doyle" <jeffd@tranquility.net> Subject: Re: Space1999: Grace Lee Whitney This Grace Lee bashing makes me sick. She's had a tough life - it is very easy to judge someone when you haven't walked in their shoes. I would sooner have Balor back than reading more crap like this: > <ray.connole@lmco.com> wrote: > > > Wow!! I'd pay big bucks to see her. Who can forget > > all her > > unforgettable roles after Star Trek? Drug Addict, > > Nymphomaniac/Prostitution, (snip) Jeff *********************************************************** Online Alpha - The Space: 1999 Mailing List To unsubscribe: send email to majordomo@buffnet.net and in the body put unsubscribe space1999 (or space1999-digest) *********************************************************** Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 01:02:46 -0500 From: gregar <gregar@indy.net> Subject: Space1999: Grace Lee Whitney Okay, I live in two worlds. For most of my thirty-two years, I have been a fan of both Star Trek and Space: 1999, and if anyone cares, I am gay. I have been a member of this list for only a couple of months and I have become more and more disappointed in the bickering, flaming and general rudeness of some people on this list. I sat and read through the endless, meaningless diatribes about GayBaseAlpha and now find that some of you have nothing better to do than beat up on Grace Lee Whitney! While I respect different opinions, I most certainly do NOT respect name calling. Grow up! Grace went through a number of hard years and may not be the smartest individual on the planet, but so what? Who cares if Barry Morse left her table.... ooohhhh boy. How does it make some of you feel when I announce to one and all that Barbara Bain couldn't act her way out of a paper sack during the first season of 1999? Pretty crappy, huh? Let's stop being rude and start talking about the topic at hand, namely Space: 1999. Not all of us can even afford to go to the MM2000... which is fine by me since I don't think I'd want to run into some of the rude people from this list. Greg *********************************************************** Online Alpha - The Space: 1999 Mailing List To unsubscribe: send email to majordomo@buffnet.net and in the body put unsubscribe space1999 (or space1999-digest) *********************************************************** End of space1999-digest V3 #279 ******************************* | |
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